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Which Party causes all the Wars?

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The same party has caused all the wars in the United States for the last century; the political party. Inter-country war is an outward reflection of the war that is already waged by the political class against people through taxation, inflation, monopoly and coercion. Before a political class can wage war, it must first enslave, de-humanise and oppress those it wishes to carry out its bidding. Talk of which US political party has a greater peace credential is meaningless. Every US president this century has presided over the butchers of ‘national defense’. If anybody has any more wars to add, please say so and I will update the list! Here’s a few to get the ball rolling:

WW1 President Wilson Democrat
WW2 President Roosevelt Democrat
Korea President Truman Democrat
Viet Nam President Kennedy Democrat
Bay of Pigs President Kennedy Democrat
Grenada President Reagan Republican
Panama President Reagan Republican
Gulf War President Bush Sr. Republican
Bosnia-Herzegovina President Clinton Democrat
Somalia President Clinton Democrat
Kosovo Pres. Clinton Democrat
Afghanistan President Bush Jr. Republican
Iraq President Bush Jr. Republican
8 Democrat
5 Republican

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Written by NaomhAdamnan

November 4, 2008 at 11:07 am

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  1. Nicaragua?

    20000miles

    November 4, 2008 at 12:27 pm

  2. So you’re just naming all the wars this century and the american presidents at the helm at the time…what are you saying? or is this just botany?
    I’m no historian but with a number of the wars mentioned the US certainly didn’t start them and were reluctant to become involved though of course under the Bush presidencies this does not apply. But in Bosnia, Kosovo, WW1,2, Somalia, Rwanda they certainly werent the ones to start the conflict (and they have had success in brokering peace in N. Ireland but failed spectacularly in Israel/Palestine)-is it your point to blame US political parties for all these wars or political parties in general? (and remember we don’t live in hunter-gatherer communities these days-some sort of leadership is required).

    Captain Pickering

    November 4, 2008 at 5:07 pm

  3. (of course the problem with Rwanda was that they didn’t intervene or acknowledge the genocide until it was too late,presumably you believe they should have right?, as in Darfur-but what had they to gain in moving into Kosovo? or Somalia? I dont see whatthis has to do with thewar the US govt is waging on its own people through tax, inflation etc presumably you believe too that Hitler needed to be stopped?)

    Captain Pickering

    November 4, 2008 at 5:25 pm

  4. Well Captain Pickering, good to hear from you! US entry into World War One was politically motivated. President Woodrow Wilson was desperate to change the American public’s attitude towards war from day one. US entry prolonged the war and lead to the needless death of countless more. the US created WW2 from the ashes of WW1 with the Versailles Treaty. This forced Germany to accept moral blame for the war which was not the case and crippled it economically. US politically-connected banks then funded Hitler’s Germany even during WW2. It has been found in the European Court of Human Rights that Serbia in fact was not committing war crimes during Clinton’s invasion. Kosovo is now said to be one of the most dangerous countries in Europe as it’s control has been handed to gangsters and thugs. Clinton’s rampage in Somalia devastated certain warlords for the benefit of others. Things are not as clear as history books would like you to believe.

    Brian

    November 4, 2008 at 5:44 pm

  5. ok, im willing to accept all that, i have only a superficial knowledge-but what had they to gain from entry into these wars-kosovo, bosnia (ww1,2 started in such a small region)? i dont see the connection with the war america is supposed to be waging on its own people. I agree that the mlitary planning in these conflicts was appalling, in particular in favouring airstrikes rather than a ground invasion, but i believe intervention was needed. Presumably you believe that if the UN is so impotent then the world’s superpower has a responsibility to step in in Rwanda for instance.
    Furthermore, a well informed australian national has just read your piece and wondered how the US was supposed to stay out of WW2 after Pearl harbour and that even in her country the history books are euro-centric, that the war in the pacific isnt documented satisfactorily.
    And what of the Marshall Plan aid to rebuild Europe? What of the fact that it was governments ravaged by war that set up the EU which selfish nations like our own wish to halt its expansion-i find it hard to imagine terrible wars in Kosovo and Bosnia could have taken place if Yugoslavia had been a member of the EU-this is certainly a naive view.
    And what benefit to the big political parties in Europe was there to allowing Ireland join their elite club-we contributed nothing. I think Europe has learned more than American from recent conflicts but it was large scale political party cooperation that achieved this, even if the european parliament is grossly inefficient.
    (I think a more interesting question is why America can so freely disregard the ideological views of other states, for example in its cold war with russia, cuba and its “war on terror” against the Islamic world-how can they speak of freedom when they have no respect for the freedom of others? and of course republican/democratic loyalties make no difference on this debate-they celebrate their constitution but feel the need to oppress other states…i’m probably making no sense, but i dont see much connection between this and the war they are waging on their own people by tax and inflation etc of course there are vested interests but i think the link on this issue is tenuous).

    Captain Pickering

    November 4, 2008 at 8:46 pm

  6. Valid questions Captain Pickering. In order to properly address all the perceived assumptions I would need several more articles. In summary, it is in the interest of politicians to wage wars. War justifies their existence. They must mobilise and strike fear into the people for if the people actually start questioning the establishment their control of society would evaporate. In the US, there is ‘The War on Poverty’, ‘The War on Drugs’, ‘No Child Left Behind’ etc., all these programs have utterly failed and had the complete reverse effect that their supposed intentions were to be. People are poorer, drugs are more freely available and educational standards have plummeted. In fact, government action has and will always have outcomes totally different from their intentions because it is brought about by force and not voluntary choice. It is simply to understand human nature to see why. In any transaction, both participants must benefit for the transaction to take place. Governments can only take from one and give to another so by definition, somebody must lose. Thus all government action causes inequality. Inevitably it is the poor who are most effected by government action. The government never has the interest of the poor at heart, they are only used as a cover to conceal their own crooked ends. With regards the UN and WW2, I will need more time to explain. Try reading this article: http://mises.org/misesreview_detail.aspx?control=336

    Brian

    November 5, 2008 at 12:48 am

  7. The Nicaraguan conflict went on for so long I’m having difficulty picking which presidents were most to blame.

    Brian

    November 5, 2008 at 4:26 pm

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